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Planning Commission Meeting Minutes November 12, 2015 Page 11 of 41 Moline asks how would you describe the status of the existing home there? Does it have any historical significance? Hartronft says the owners did apply for a demo permit in the past and the HPC let the demo permit go. I believe there are people who believe that it has historic value and that it could be landmarked. The owners have not pursued landmarking. I believe there is enough integrity there that it could be landmarked, but it hasn't been proposed and gone through a vetting yet to see if it would pass. Russell says the courtyard that you are proposing for outdoor dining. The existing residence that you want to keep, is that going to be continued to be used as a private residence? It seems like an unusual situation to have outdoor restaurant dining abutting i :4 ediately adjacent to a private residence. Hartronft says in the short term, it will be. I believe over time, thi ange and if there is pressure to make that commercial, it could happen. For now i r eseeable future, it is envisioned as a residence. This is a rental unit and so the • - nt it will know what is happening in the courtyard next to them. If we had a Bittersweet type • rtyard that was active in the morning and through lunch, but there wasn't music and cra in the evening, that would be a great courtyard to be adjacent to. If you think about downto 'enver and Boulder, there are lots of restaurants next to courtyards. Pritchard asks in regard to the rental property, the current renter has multiple vehic -s, in excess of two. How are we going to address that? Parking is obv' dly a premium. I understand the desire to utilize as much hard surface that is in existence, ! I know the current renter has three cars. Hartronft says rules will change. I will defer to the landlord. Grassi says the renter and I have spoken about the . nt of at he has. I think his wife has been attached to some of them, but there a ing . anging that. Brauneis says I appreciate the work that wen ooking at alternative schemes for this site. Can you speak to some of the differences, ad ges and disadvantages, of that alternative approach? It was a more flat, squared off, two- building. Hartronft says I believe from a fitting -in with Downtown and being in transition, I think this would be fine in the core area. I think for the transition area, I think the pitched gable roofs make more sense especially retaining the existing house. You can barely see it since we tried to step the building back and tried to respect the house somewhat, but it does go right up against that east wall and the house is a little bit of a poor stepsister over there. At the end of the day, I think we would decide to get rid of the house if we were going to move in this direction because it is just too constrained to keep it there the way this is laying out. I think we could do some other things to replace that square footage and make a more logical approach than this. We didn't detail this alternative building out in terms of fenestration. It is pretty standard floor to floor height that we use in commercial buildings and have used Downtown. We could certainly play with that over time, but here is the envelope that a 35', two -story would generate as a starting point. You would have to work it to make it better than that. Some people said they liked it. My biggest problem with it is the loss of the open space if we are going to keep the house. The only way to get the open space back would be to demo the house. I think of Ronda working in her office on the second floor and then opening a door and walking into her loft on the second floor. It's too close. But if she can walk upstairs and go out on her roof deck, from a functional standpoint, she can get away from work. She has expressed a strong decision to separate that working level. The live -work when they are joined like this, it is not as successful than if you do this if you are the person living and working in the same building.