Building Code Board of Appeals Minutes 1998

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That is what Jefferson County is doing now Much more so then what Carbon Dale did. Greg Cullison—I had heard that when Longmont adopted the IPC they amended it to the point that it was very similar to the UPC Tom Talboom—I will find out what all the Jurisdictions have done and get copies to all the board members. I will also make a copy of the sunset review report with regard to the State Plumbing Code. Ray Schlott—Three are only a few things in the IPC which are really controversial. One is the use of plastic water pipe, and the use of Studor vents. Tom Talboom—IAPMO has approved Studor vents. The state will not approve them. It is the same with flexible gas lines,they have a UL and IAPMO listings. That is one of the problems local jurisdictions have, is they cannot get any findings of fact, or conclusion of law, from the State Plumbing Board concerning these issues. They are just turning these things down with no written explanations,as to cause. I went to the State Plumbing about 3 years ago and asked for relief from Appendix C, which specifies the number of plumbing fixtures required. We had a bagel shop go in with an occupant load of 20, and according to the pluming code appendix they were required to have a women's restroom, and a men's restroom. You had to have a water closet,urinal and a lay in the men's room and in the women's you had to have a water closet and a lay Then there is footnote that you have to have the same number of fixtures in the women's as in the men's,to make them equal. So then you have to add another water closet to the women's restroom. So for a small bagel shop you had to have four toilets. I asked for relief in writing to the Colorado Plumbing Board. I never did get a response. When I called them they advised me that I had been turned down. I asked for something in writing. Their response was,"we don't do that" So I wrote another letter to appeal. I went before them in person and they said"sounds like a good thing,you can do that" I asked for something in writing,they responded no we don't do that,but it still is okay That is the way it is to deal with the State Plumbing Board. Charles Keim—It would seem to me that one of the most difficult things in using any code, is inconsistency Take Jefferson County,how are you supposed to know what is and what is not adopted if you buy a Code Book. Do you then need to buy a copy from each City, or can you buy one copy and use it in all the Cities? It sounds like you can't Tom Talboom—That is why the International Codes have come about, one code that you can use throughout the entire country I would rather see us adopt the International Code outright. The State has amended the Umform Plumbing Code in several area's which 5