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According to the Williams family, Maurice and Sarah's son, John V. ("Johnny") attended school in Louisville and also spent some time working for newspapers himself while a teenager. The 1930 census records show Johnny and his mother, Sarah, to be living at 636 McKinley. Johnny was working as a cook in a restaurant at the time. Directories show that Sarah was a dressmaker who worked out of their home. Johnny Williams' daughter has stated that he worked as a cook for the railroad and had other jobs, such as at lumber camps. Most people in town knew him by his nickname, "Shadow." 1940 census records show Johnny, then age 35, living with his mother, then age 76, at 636 McKinley. Johnny had become a coal miner. While he was a miner, he was active on mine rescue squads, as shown in the following photo in which he is shown in the front row, far right: "Mrs. Williams" is remembered from this time period by a former Louisville resident who grew up nearby. Mrs. Williams would allow girls in the neighborhood to pick her hollyhocks that grew at 636 McKinley, along Pine Street and along the alley, so that they could use them to craft dolls. The date of the death of Sarah Evans Williams is not known, but between 1940 and 1943, Johnny Williams married a young woman, Alvirda Overturf Coet. Alvirda was born in 1918 in Illinois, married Leon Coet, and moved to Louisville with him. At the time of the 1940 census, the two were living apart and they would eventually divorce. In 1940, Alvirda was working as a waitress at the Blue Parrot, where she would continue working for many years, even after her marriage to Johnny Williams. After their marriage, 636 McKinley became the home of both Johnny and Alvirda Williams. Johnny learned carpentry skills and is remembered for remodeling and adding on to the house, a bit at a time. According to their daughter, the front living room, bedroom, and kitchen, are all original parts of the house. The following images from the 1948 Boulder County Assessor show the house at 636 McKinley and show the ground layout: