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Planning Commission <br />Meeting Minutes <br />March 9, 2017 <br />Page 5 of 7 <br />Trice says this has come up with other Boards and Commissions. We have discussed doing a <br />"mock-up" of some signs to see what they would actually look like in the field. We want <br />feedback from you. We have presented this to other Boards and Commissions. <br />Pritchard asks what would it cost to do ALL of the signage. <br />Trice says I don't have the math for Phase 1 and Phase 2. Phase 1 would cost $63,500 for <br />McCaslin and $68,350 for Downtown, and it is approved. In Phase 2, most of the sign type A <br />would be done and they cost $21,000 each. <br />Pritchard asks the PC their opinions on placement of signs. <br />Moline asks if there is a corresponding wayfinding plan that Parks and Open Space is doing. <br />Trice says OSAB has been working on their plan for almost as long as we have been and they <br />are focusing on trails. There has been some coordination. There are two different consultants <br />but they met to discuss using similar fonts and materials. <br />Moline says regarding the Davidson Mesa trail and the new US 36 connection, there are people <br />entering Louisville via regional trails. It would be good to include those in this plan. <br />Zuccaro says the City is currently working with Commuting Solutions and other cities on <br />another wayfinding plan specifically related to first and last mile issues around the BRT stations <br />and the US 36 trail. <br />Brauneis says there was discussion in the past about a Downtown Kiosk adjacent to the Chase <br />Bank parking lot. Bicycle racks were often discussed. <br />Trice says there was discussion to build a little plaza with a kiosk. I don't think it was funded. <br />The City does have bicycle racks. The City has a new online platform through Bang the Table <br />called EngageLouisvilleCO.org. There is a function where you can place new bike racks. <br />O'Connell says looking at the signs at South Boulder Road and Main Street, there appear to be <br />only J signs. Is there thought of putting a monument sign like a B sign at the entrance to Main <br />Street? <br />Trice says looking at Phase 2, there are C signs which are lower, more pedestrian -oriented <br />signs. They have been a point of contention at that intersection because it is not an "actual" <br />entrance into Louisville. At that point, you are already in Louisville. There was discussion about <br />the need of a monument sign at that location. Are the Downtown directional signs enough? <br />O'Connell says I would like to see a C sign, more than a pole sign. <br />Brauneis says regarding the J signs at South Boulder Road and Via Appia, will they point you <br />down Via Appia and down Pine Street? <br />Trice says these signs were discussed and this location was not best for directions to <br />Downtown. There is an option to have these signs NOT direct people to Downtown but to other <br />locations, such as the Rec Center. <br />Brauneis says one thing that has changed since we started this discussion is that people <br />coming from out of town will be using a Smart phone. People aiming for the Rec Center may not <br />need Rec Center signage anymore. There is a difference between wayfinding and sense of <br />place. With the continued growth of Smart phones, wayfinding takes on a different use. <br />Trice says the Business Retention and Development Committee (BRAD) brought this up. They <br />wanted to see more entry signs and less directional signs. <br />Rice says the only monument sign in Phase 1 is the sign at US 36 and McCaslin. Entering from <br />the west or east, those signs have been pushed into Phase 2. Is that because they are the most <br />expensive signs? <br />Trice says they are expensive. In Phase 1, there is a sign for Hwy 42 and Pine which is <br />currently a B sign (two pillars). <br />Rice says arrows pointing people to Downtown are becoming antiquated in terms of their utility. <br />It is more about providing identity to the community. <br />Trice says the 2016 budget is divided into Downtown and McCaslin. This is why these locations <br />were chosen. <br />Pritchard says in looking at a J sign on Cherry Street and McCaslin, the pillars (upright <br />concrete) are located there. The pillars say Centennial Valley. The City does not own it. I think <br />they are ugly because the owners do not maintain them. Is there any coordination with the <br />