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get to a decision where we can choose a final path. Mr. Manire agreed <br />and said we will continue modeling for comparison. Mr. Kowar added that <br />staff is recommending the Group Financing where with the information we <br />have we think the risks are well mitigated for default and the ability to <br />move water if it comes to us. Councilmember Lipton thinks we need an <br />expanded table for that so this is more flushed out so we can then make a <br />good decision. Mayor Stolzmann added that what she is hearing is that <br />we need to bring a decision to Council after this meeting. Councilmember <br />Lipton said that he finds that unacceptable as he doesn't think this is fully <br />understood. Mayor Stolzmann agreed that we don't have enough <br />information to go with the Group Financing and stated what she has <br />heard was the benefit is that the debt service won't count against us so <br />we'll have more rate flexibility going forward. Then everything else stays <br />the same and the risk and unknown makes it impossible for her to say we <br />should go with the Group Financing. She continued saying that we have <br />not hit our debt coverage in the last 10 years so that's not a compelling <br />argument. So she's not for the Group Financing because of the lack of <br />information. Mayor Pro Tern Councilmember Maloney thanked Mr. Manire <br />for his input and continued with the next chart. <br />Page 21 — Minor Issues. Mr. Manire explained what the term selection is <br />(used 20-30 year term). Mayor Pro Tern Councilmember Maloney added <br />that we don't have enough information to make a decision on these <br />issues today and he would like to dive into the number more. Mr. Kowar <br />said that we would run a model for a 20 and 30 year for each estimate for <br />the City and the Pool Financing so that would be four schedules for the <br />Committee to review. Mr. Kowar stated we are trying to get to the <br />specifics and to give Utility the most options without being overwhelming. <br />He continued by listing the outstanding issues: <br />0 4 Cost Schedules for 20 and 30 year <br />o City vs Pool Financing <br />o Allotment Contract <br />o Debt Coverage Analysis <br />o Minor Issues — Add Debt Capacity <br />Mr. Kowar continued suggesting that staff will attempt to add more detail <br />but we have run eight scenarios and we did narrow it down to a couple. <br />Mr. Kowar sought direction from the Utility Committee on the cash down <br />versus not. Mr. Kowar stated that Public Works staff's opinion is the <br />Group Financing the interest rate won't be significantly different and the <br />cash down piece we'd use our cash to set up the various funds required <br />and do the actual loan amount for the project on the financing. Mr. Kowar <br />asked the committee if they agree with using our cash for setting up our <br />various reserve liquidity funds and let the cost of the project go into the <br />loan. Mayor Pro Tern Councilmember Maloney stated that if we have the <br />available cash that it makes sense to do but what's the effect on rates and <br />what's the impact if we do a down payment to cover those things. <br />