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<br />COLO. TECH. CENTER <br />DR. ROBINSON CONT'D <br /> <br />known what strengths these rocks are and <br />how much coal you can leave to still <br />support the roof. In a coal mine they go <br />all the way in as far as they were going <br />to mine with a series of drifts and then <br />they mine back out so that they can rob <br />the pillars as they went, or minimize the <br />strength of the pillars and let the ground <br />cave behind them. Now they would do this <br />in many areas to recover just as much coal <br />as possible; main haulage ways, main access <br />shafts they might leave pillars for support. <br />We have marked on this map on discussions <br />that came up at the LUC meeting and it is <br />mentioned in there. They talk about the <br />angle of rock. They talk about the fact <br />that they not only want you to note all <br />the area directly above that mine as <br />hazardous and possibly failing, but also <br />an area equivalent to a 300 angle of drop <br />otherwise the failure into this opening <br />typically in most mines is not disburted. <br />It comes in at an angle; we go between <br />the vertical and the line of failure below <br />the angle of draw and they recommend a <br />300 angle. That is a standard number for <br />Wyoming. It worked beautifully in Rock <br />Springs. It has never been measured in <br />Colorado, we have never been able to find <br />it. Where we have done our studies in <br />Colorado it is in mines less then 150 feet <br />deep and the angle has always been vertical <br />There is absolutely no evidence for the <br />acceptance of a 300 angle of rock, but this <br />is one of the recommendations based on <br />regional experience. This is an example <br />of where you would have subsidence, where <br />coal has been mined out and you have a <br />drop of this section; now this amount of <br />drop can never exceed the amount of coal <br />that is removed. One of the men that I <br />am working with in Wyoming, before he came <br />to run the Trona mine was operating a coal <br />mine in England and he was mining 5 miles <br />out underneath the North Sea. He had only <br />500 feet of rock between him and the North <br />Sea. And they had a regular 3 to 5 foot <br />of subsidence of the floor in the North Sea <br />They knew it, mined it, and designed for it <br />and they didn't get wet. This is not an <br />art, it is an engineering science that has <br />been well worked. One of the ways they <br />mind, they don't take it all out and they <br />leave rooms and pillars. This is just an <br />example of that. These are the conditions <br /> <br />10. <br />