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typically done better than others in the county. We also have an aging population and looking at senior <br />planning as important to us. 64 of our properties are senior units. <br />Frank said we have an updated consolidated plan for Boulder County, which breaks down by <br />jurisdiction, includes AMI levels. We didn't do the same level of granular analysis as in past data. <br />Walt said that in this community people are living in rental units which they can afford. Rents are <br />escalating up and these people are finding they cannot afford to stay within the community. Some of <br />them have found Regal Square II and Sunnyside. A lot of the elderly have gone to Lydia Morgan, <br />mainly because that's where the property is available and they want to remain residents in the city. <br />Within our portfolio there are a limited number of senior friendly properties. <br />Frank stated Lilac Place property is not cash flowing very well. It was a former USDA property. It is <br />sitting on a big piece of land and we had consideration of building that up into a few more units. That <br />was tabled. It has continued to come up over the past 5+ years as a potential sale. Regal court II has <br />financial constraints around it. Regarding Hillside Square disposition; we are still in the process of <br />trying to decide the overall time investments and what we would do with the property. It will never be <br />senior property. It is a family property. <br />Steve said Regal Court I and Regal Court II properties will be considered and he will come back with <br />opportunity ideas for a partnership that all parties could be part of and that we could get some cash out <br />of, or reduce the debt with tax credit equity. <br />Sherry wants to hold onto Acme because it is downtown, we don't owe anything on it, we have put <br />solar on it, and she thinks it will be worth more in the future. <br />Frank said that within the constrained requirements that exist now, you do not have the resources to <br />proceed unless we make some moves somewhere. You have 160 unit portfolios and owe money to <br />various funds. We all want a plan and know what kind of needs we want to hit. What we don't know <br />are the moves. We need to know the constraints and opportunities. If Lilac Place is two levels, and <br />doesn't work for seniors, is there no equity in it? Is there a market for it? He asked if it would make <br />sense to convert it and sell low income condos. Once you acquire a 12 -plex and its operating, you are <br />already better off than most of the other things that come by <br />Steve said you could combine these properties and pay for the development costs. The debt on Lilac, <br />Regal Square and Regal Court comes due in 2014, at 5.5% and probably isn't pre- payable. If you can <br />add that to the tax credit properties, plus the public housing, it is an interesting possibility to add to the <br />land idea with 24 -30 units of senior property on. Bank qualified tax exempt bonds are government <br />purpose, issued by a housing authority. That's it. Private activity bonds have to have debt, but its debt <br />issued by a taxable partnership, so it's a private activity. The interest rate to a bank is not as good as a <br />tax exempt. 30 year amortization depresses the cost of the debt service. <br />Frank said our biggest tools would be what Steve is describing, putting together a tax credit <br />partnership. Our plan is to see how the market goes. The plan for the second phase of Josephine <br />Commons, most of those are going to be permanently affordable rental unit, will be in a PAD 4% deal, <br />moving a bunch of housing units and other properties that we will pull out of. <br />