Open Space Advisory Board Agenda and Packet 2016 11 09 JT

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Open Space Advisory Board Minutes October 5th 2016 Page 4 of 5 of the intersection of McCaslin and South Boulder Rd. as an example of a City "gateway." He thought such a place could be made here, using landscaping elements. In return for creating the "gateway," the developers wish to create a gentle depression on the land to create a stormwater run-off diversion for their townhouses. This would greatly improve the desirably of the subdivision. The developer is willing to improve and have the HOA maintain the triangle and its landscaping. The City would still own the land, but the HOA would have to pay for (or preform) maintenance in perpetuity. Chris asked what the CDOT right -away was. Mr. Hartronft replied this was all City land. Spencer asked what would happen if the developers cannot get permission to put the storm water run-off on the triangle. Mr. Hartronft answered that it could also be put interior to the subdivision, but it would be less attractive and would require deep depressions in the communal spaces. Allan commented that this seemed to him like a win-win proposal, since the land doesn't have much active recreation use, due to its size, shape, and location. He liked the walkway being separated from streets and the "gateway" functionality. Laura commented that the other three sides of the intersection of 96th Street and Lock Street/Highway 42 are all prairie and she wanted a similar "naturalistic" look at the triangle. The diagrams seem to show it looking "golf course" green. Mr. Hartronft replied that they could create a naturalistic aesthetic, and would plant drylands grasses. Spencer was concerned that this land would be perceived as "owned" by the subdivisions, or as just a buffer for the HOA. Linda asked how wide the multi -use path would be. Mr. Hartronft said they could make it conform to City standard (10-12ft). Missy liked to hear about the plans for drylands grasses and a natural look, thinking that would be cheaper and better. Especially, she added, since "maintained in perpetuity by HOAs" often seems to revert to City maintenance eventually, the landscaping should be simple and inexpensive to maintain. Missy recommended a crusher fines surface for the trail. Helen asked how high of a berm on the land the developers was proposing. Mr. Hartronft answered about 3 feet, perhaps with a sign on a wall saying City of Louisville (or similar). Laura commented that such a low "wall -sign" would require constant mowing to read. Laura questioned whether the subdivisions residents would ever use the trail, since they'd have the sidewalk on East St. She thought the chief users would be bike commuters from the east or from the south, passing through, so the trail ought to be constructed with bike commuters in mind. She added that there are bike commuting trail standards from the wayfinding project that she would like to see used here. Allan said he thought some of the principle users of the trail would be people coming from the Tech Center to downtown. Chris thought this proposal seemed like a win-win. Spencer asked if there was any way to align the trail through the subdivisions, so it pointed more directly towards downtown. Mr. Hartronft felt there might be a way to do this as the northern parcels between the train tracks and East Street get re -developed, but it would be difficult to do through this subdivision as planned. XII. Discussion Item: Discussion item: Development Review Presented by Allan Gill, Project Manager - Allan reported that the initial development review committee for the Clementine project would be held tomorrow. He was of the opinion that to do the project right, the 5