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City Council <br />Meeting Minutes <br />September 11, 2018 <br />Page 12 of 13 <br />what we thought we were trying to achieve and the response is clear. He worried we will <br />have the same experience if we have different people look at it. <br />Councilmember Leh noted it is only when you see all of it together that it doesn't seem <br />to work. He suggested taking one more step toward finding general consensus on some <br />questions before deciding to just not do the survey this year. He thought some of it was <br />worth trying to salvage. <br />Motion: Councilmember Stolzmann moved to end work on the survey for now, <br />Councilmember Loo seconded. <br />Councilmember Stolzmann saw a need to determine where it fits in our priorities and <br />figure out what questions we need to ask. <br />Mayor Muckle stated he was willing to take one more cut at this for a smaller survey. <br />Substitute Motion: Councilmember Keany offered a substitute motion to have two <br />members take one more try and bring it back to Council in a slimmed down version. <br />Mayor Muckle seconded. <br />Mayor Pro Tem Lipton said before we spend too much more time on this there is a need <br />to discuss what we really want to accomplish or if there are other ways to get the <br />information we want. <br />Councilmember Stolzmann appreciated the effort to save it, but sometimes it is best to <br />cut the losses and move on. That we don't know our goals is a sign we need to refocus. <br />Need more goal setting conversations first. <br />Substitute motion vote — 3-4 Councilmember Loo, Mayor Pro Tem Lipton, <br />Councilmember Maloney and Councilmember Stolzmann voted no. Motion fails. <br />Mayor Pro Tem Lipton offered a substitute motion to schedule time to discuss with more <br />clarity what we want to accomplish with the survey and decide if the survey is the best <br />way to accomplish those goals. <br />Councilmember Leh offered a friendly amendment to clarify to table the survey until <br />there is a discussion about goals and desire to proceed. Councilmember Leh withdrew <br />his amendment. <br />The vote on the substitute motion would be to have discussion at a future meeting to <br />determine goals and foundational discussion on what we are trying to accomplish. <br />Councilmember Maloney asked if this would be in 2019 and suggested talking about it <br />when looking at the 2019 work plan and see if it is a priority. <br />