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City Council <br />Meeting Minutes <br />November 4, 2019 <br />Page 8 of 20 <br />something to happen there. Even if it becomes office on the first floor that is still more <br />bodies downtown to help support other retail. Approval also sends a message to the <br />business community we want to help. We have an interested party wanting to improve <br />this location and we should support that. <br />Councilmember Keany stated this is an important thing for the community to do for <br />downtown. He hears from residents that downtown needs to be revitalized. This is a <br />rebate. We need to support this. He was concerned if we don't support this applicant they <br />may move to another location leaving multiple buildings vacant downtown. This makes <br />sense for the community. <br />Mayor Muckle stated supporting this is not in conflict with other projects in the area. He <br />doesn't think this sets a fixed precedent that requires us to use it other places. This <br />location would benefit from a newer building and bring people downtown. He would like to <br />see retail, but doesn't want to require it. <br />Councilmember Stolzmann stated she agreed with Councilmember Maloney. She stated <br />she would like a time commitment included similar to the business assistance packages. <br />She would like to see a requirement for retail on the first floor. She stated the BAPs and <br />the TIF program are different and have different goals. She too feels it doesn't meet the <br />requirements for extraordinary circumstances and is precendent setting. <br />Councilmember Leh asked Councilmember Stolzmann which criteria it doesn't meet. <br />Councilmember Stolzmann stated she feels that as proposed it doesn't meet many of the <br />criteria in the policy. <br />Councilmember Leh stated this is a rigorous process for the rebate. Part of being a <br />business owner is that we all value certainty and adding different requirements and <br />changing rules in the middle of the game are hard to deal with. He feels the extraordinary <br />benefit is the only factor we are really arguing about and the policy stated the proposed <br />project must address three or more of the objectives in the policy. He feels the application <br />meets enough of the criteria. If we don't approve this we are sending a signal to <br />downtown we are not serious about supporting those businesses with the tools we have <br />in our tool kit. The Council should not put yet another restriction on how we approve TIF <br />benefits. Most certainly three or more criteria are addressed by this application. There is a <br />project in front of us we should consider, while not worrying about possible later projects. <br />We are sending a message to businesses and to other communities we are willing to use <br />this tool. We continue to say we are friendly to business but we are running out of time in <br />making that argument. For those reasons he supports this. <br />Mayor Pro Tem Lipton stated the criteria he noted are qualifying for any project however <br />the extraordinary benefits are more stringent and this doesn't meet that. To get the 90 % <br />they need to offer more. <br />