Planning Commission Minutes 2019 07 11

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Planning Commission Meeting Minutes July 11, 2019 Page 3 of 10 Rice asked if the current monument sign was at the maximum size or if it could be made bigger. Zuccaro replied that the sign was likely built to what was allowed but he would confirm. He noted that at the time of the original PUD it made sense to combine the three signs from the three properties even though it required a waiver from the sign program. Rice asked about the menu signs. Selvoski replied that they were put in without going through the PUD process or a building permit and that they were not addressed under the current sign code. Moline asked what it would take to modify the existing sign. Selvoksi stated that it was already at the maximum size. Zuccaro added that any change would require a PUD amendment because the sign did not currently adhere to the code. Rice invited the applicant to make his presentation. Robert Kearney, 549 North Fourth Street in Loveland, asked for a show of hands to who had been to the car wash and proceeded to hand out flyers. Vice Chair Rice informed Mr. Kearney that the Commission could not receive anything from the applicant at a public hearing. Kearney stated that the original PUD included all the property with the three owners. Under that PUD, the car wash was entitled to half of the joint sign on South Boulder Road. Speedy Sparkle occupied about half of the total property. The King Soopers PUD used to have a different sign requirement, but their PUD never had a signature from the car wash owner and the South Boulder Road sign is an off -premises sign to King Soopers. He did not want to diminish that sign, but they were asking for half of the signage space for Speedy Sparkle. He described that the other signs at King Soopers were larger than those at Speedy Sparkle. He stated that 54% of customers in a four-year study couldn't find signs due to being too small and customers complain that the lettering on signs was too small and that 81 % of consumers appreciated LED signs. He listed other percentages to show that signage is important to businesses big and small. He and his business wanted to be treated fairly as King Soopers has been. Chip Weincek from CWA Architecture described the history of the application, which had been started in September 2018. He believed that the proposal responded to the request to address the contextual built environment. They had had multiple meetings and revisions to their submittals and had not had much feedback from staff. Weincek proceeded to describe the application. The site plan showed that speedy sparkle was the largest property on the site. The shared signage, which was never recorded with the Speedy Sparkle property, was too small for the property. He showed that Speedy Sparkle and Jiffy Lube had 10 square feet on the shared sign each and King Soopers had 40 square feet. King Soopers also had a second monument sign for a total of 69 square feet. He showed the existing menu signs, reminding the Commission that the menu signs were not addressed in the code and the owner of Speedy Sparkle thought that that meant he could proceed to put them up. Weincek stated that the menu signs 5