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Planning Commission <br />Meeting Minutes <br />December 10, 2015 <br />Page 13 of 29 <br />lot of impact fiscally and economically. We have made a plan and then over time, we have <br />slowly changed the plan to end up with a lot of residential. <br />McCartney says if you look back at the 1989 GDP which was the north Louisville plan, they <br />actually do call for commercial mixed -use in this area. I remember nine years ago when we <br />looked at one of the original amendments to create the Takoda area. We had a different lay -out <br />for the commercial, extending further into this development, and then we turned it more linear. <br />This is a request from the applicant to provide more residential. It does comply with the 2013 <br />Comp Plan as far as overall uses and the request for different types of housing mix. <br />Russ says planning documents are not exact documents. This is an important note for the <br />community to understand. The Comp Plan is deliberately vague and is supposed to convey a <br />character and a core set of principles for the public to determine what that means. CC and PC <br />determine what this conceptual document means. It is not a zoning document because the <br />State doesn't allow it to be. It is meant to be a character and a "feel" and CC's and PC's ultimate <br />comfort. It gives PC some room to determine that deliberately. Staff simply evaluates it based <br />on the principals and framework. An applicant can submit a very exact PUD and Staff uses <br />every tool at the time to say, is it consistent with the Comp Plan. This new request, when <br />compared to the character vision document, it meets the principals of that document. PC has <br />the discretion to determine if that is the case or not. <br />Brauneis asks about evaluating different sites throughout the City that have proposed to move <br />out of commercial use. We have identified areas that appear to be suboptimal locations for <br />retail. This location seems to be perhaps the only undeveloped spot left within Louisville that <br />has retail potential. From a planning perspective, wouldn't it make sense to push it further <br />towards commercial -retail than residential? <br />Russ says in looking at the uses and total square footage allowed, half of the allowed <br />commercial square footage would be retail. We are not trading, in my opinion, retail for <br />residential. You are trading office for residential because the second floor will never perform as <br />retail. Looking at the total square footage that is allowed in the market place, we are getting <br />retail on the ground floor. We are getting flex office space that is somewhat gray. We certainly <br />don't have, or anyone has, the true market potential to determine if that retail will be leased. We <br />know with this condition that a built building has a better chance of being leased than a vacant <br />lot. I don't look at this as residential for retail; I look at it as residential for office. The retail <br />component is essentially the same size as the retail component of what was originally approved. <br />O'Connell says, in looking at page 3 in the packet and how the Indian Peaks filing in Lafayette <br />is directly to the north of this, there are two spaces that are labeled commercial in yellow in <br />Indian Peaks. Along the lines of retail in general, is the City aware of any moves to put in <br />commercial in those areas? <br />McCartney says Lafayette just recently received a pre -submittal from WW Reynolds for 11 <br />acres commercial that had a 59,000 sf box, and some associated uses. There was a <br />neighborhood meeting that was listed in the paper. No Staff attended the meeting. The <br />reception to the plan, from my reading of the article, was not positive. What they referenced was <br />that the City of Lafayette immediate residents would like what is being proposed on the <br />Foundry, perhaps primarily for the architectural design. They were not specific but they said <br />they would like to see more of what is proposed at the Foundry in the WW Reynolds submittal. <br />Since then, the City of Lafayette has requested a copy of the Foundry submittal and so has WW <br />Reynolds. They both have copies of this submittal. <br />O'Connell asks if this development will be further along on a time frame? <br />Russell asks how long has this property been zoned commercial and available for the market? <br />McCartney says at least nine years. <br />Russell asks how much commercial square footage is on that lot today? <br />McCartney says none. <br />Russell asks how much, if approved tonight, would there be? <br />McCartney says 38,000 sf. <br />
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