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Planning Commission <br />Meeting Minutes <br />December 10, 2015 <br />Page 14 of 29 <br />Russell says we are not trading anything. You can't lose what you don't have. There is potential <br />that has been there a very long time. Secondly, we are age -restricting this as a tool to manage <br />demand in BVSD. We are now building age -restricted residential development in our city to <br />manage the demand on BVSD. <br />McCartney says yes and partly a mix of housing types as requested by the Comp Plan. I think <br />the underlying theme is to try and alleviate the impact on the school district. <br />Russell says what happens if you can't lease age -restricted units? Is it as simple as coming <br />back to PC and asking for an amendment? Finally, what do you have against water towers? <br />McCartney says we called it architecturally confusing. <br />Tengler says the previous PUD had 48 residential units, is that correct? <br />McCartney says the original submittal of this Foundry had 48 residential units. <br />Moline asks if BVSD had a chance to comment on what would happen if this was not an age <br />restricted project? <br />McCartney says BVSD might have. When we get the original submittal, we sent it to them. I <br />can check to see if staff has those numbers. We did consult with BVSD during this process and <br />we asked them how they look at 55 years and older as far having an impact. They use the <br />numbers found in HUD for senior housing which states 55 years and older. It is their assumption <br />is that 55 years and older would have zero impact on schools. <br />Russ adds from a senior prospective that the Comp Plan has broad reaching goals and the <br />diversity of housing stock in serving our seniors is certainly very clearly stated in the Comp Plan. <br />Yes, schools are a motivation but this residential development with required senior housing is <br />more consistent with the Comp Plan than without. <br />Brauneis asks about traffic. How would this proposal compare to alternatives? <br />Russ says it would be less. Office and residential development are significantly higher trip <br />generators than residential. <br />Tengler asks about net fiscal impacts. It looks like we are talking about an annual differential <br />between developer numbers, the model numbers, and the original GDP of literally $10,000 year <br />and $20,000 a year. <br />Russ says the numbers are very close. There are variables here. The original GDP produces <br />about $400,000 additional revenue over 20 years than what is being proposed. <br />McCartney says the BVSD numbers for the original submittal of 48 units were 3 for LES, 1 for <br />LMS, and 5 for Monarch HS. <br />Applicant Presentation: <br />Justin McClure, RMCS LLC, 21 South Sunset Street, Longmont, CO 80501. <br />1 would like to begin by answering some questions. Commissioner Rice, McCartney is accurate. <br />In 2006 was when the original GDP was approved. I was 26 years old, about a decade ago. <br />What was reality then and what is reality now is different and we try to be as accurate as we <br />possibly can when we come forward with comprehensive land development. I am personally <br />very passionate about it. We have tried so many different ways to activate commercial space on <br />that parcel through cooperation with 501(c)3 for which received final PUD approval. We spent <br />money on construction documents that were unutilized. We are talking of hundreds of <br />thousands of dollars of investment to try to get it off the ground. If you read the market analysis <br />included in your packets, this goes back to 2006, listing the property with Becky Gamble. We <br />couldn't ever make anything happen of substance. What we didn't want to do in the middle of <br />the meltdown was fire -sale the property. To the north of us in Indian Peaks South, nothing <br />disparaging against McStain and Indian Peaks South, but that property was sold at $1.11/sf for <br />the 11 acres. I can assure this PC that it will be very difficult to get a high quality user at that <br />purchase price on land. That is troublesome. For me personally as an investor and creator in <br />Steel Ranch, I have a significant vested interest in making sure that that property develops as <br />quality as it possibly can. I think it is indicative of the challenges that my company has faced <br />with bringing an entirely commercial product to market. In the original GDP, we generated a 0.3 <br />FAR, 72,000 sf, of commercial space. More realistically in complying with CDDSG, complying <br />
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