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Planning Commission <br />Meeting Minutes <br />February 11, 2016 <br />Page 16 of 18 <br />McCartney says the colors are muted to go with the design scheme. We can make this <br />comment to the designer. <br />Tengler says I like the stacked stone better than the concrete. Do you have a sense of what it <br />would add to the cost? 15% or 50%? <br />McCartney says we can provide that cost at the March meeting. <br />Hsu asks if the idea is for these signs to replace the Main Street signs that we see around <br />town? <br />McCartney says yes. In the packet, you can see that Downtown would now have this medallion <br />with the miner on it. A placard would say you are now in the Downtown area. It would unify all <br />of the signs currently out there. Even down to the gateway sign on Highway 42 and Pasqual <br />would be removed and replaced with a new gateway sign. <br />Brauneis says I love the look of stacked stone but we might end up with a veneer. Over time, it <br />may not survive or get damaged. <br />Hsu says I do not like the Downtown symbol. It looks like a miner coming home after his friend <br />has died in the mine. He is looking down and carrying his pail. I understand we want to reflect <br />back to the history of Louisville, but I don't know why every miner has to look down like <br />something happened. <br />Pritchard says I look at the other miner sign and it looks like a wounded warrior to me. It looks <br />like he has thrown someone over his shoulder. <br />McCartney says the miner image carrying his pail is the one currently located in town. <br />Hsu says it looks depressing to me. We want the Downtown to seem vibrant and coal mining is <br />not the most vibrant occupation currently. At a minimum, I'd like him to look up but not looking <br />too authoritarian with a pick ax. <br />Rice says I would like to see the numbers. I think it is important to know what it is we are <br />recommending as the PC. Within the economics of this, we talk about how much it costs to build <br />something, but we don't think about how much it costs to maintain it over time. To the extent we <br />can build something that is very low maintenance, it seems there is a lot of utility in it. <br />Moline says that in looking at the locations of the study with the maps, I want to make sure that <br />trails are included as gateways. I don't know that a trail clearly needs the same scale of a sign <br />as when you're driving along Highway 42. 1 do think there might be some importance to putting <br />some of the signage along trails. I imagine that has been part of this effort. <br />McCartney says we are fortunate that our sign contractor works in the same building as the <br />Open Space sign contractor working on the trails map. These coincide with each other 100%. <br />OSAB wanted to make sure that as we carry forward, we do not overstep what they are <br />planning with their trails wayfinding. <br />Moline says I like the idea of using reclaimed materials but looking at the first family, it looks like <br />a series of old railroad ties in the middle of Downtown. It doesn't look like it fits very well to me. <br />We don't want a feature that may look like it requires maintenance already. In the second family, <br />I like the use of colors which can be used to guide people to destinations. <br />McCartney says the colors allow for less text and more guiding. I hear from the PC that the <br />colors may be too muted and we'd like a little brightness. <br />Tengler says that people will be looking at their maps on a mobile device. A couple years ago, <br />Cisco went through a huge rebranding and re -logo. One of the things they did was take out a <br />ton of detail in the old Cisco logo so it fit better as a cell phone icon. Perhaps this can be <br />factored in if people are travelling from the Police Station to Downtown. <br />McCartney says I think they have this in mind already. <br />Brauneis says we are looking for distinguishability regarding the colors. <br />Pritchard says regarding style, I am not happy with any of the images. In family 2, 1 see clarity <br />and the use of the colors and various zones. It says Louisville, CO and doesn't get cute. It is <br />short, concise, and readable. I'm thinking 35 to 45 mph on McCaslin. I have more problems with <br />family 1 version whereas family 2 is clean and crisp. It is similar to the blue used on the parking <br />signs. Regarding image, I prefer to use an image familiar to the community. I have a problem <br />with Centennial Valley because what happens if they tear down the towers? They are not <br />