Planning Commission Minutes 2006 03 16

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Planning Commission Meeting Minutes MARCH 16,2006 Page 6 of 9 Wood stated that it would be measured very similar to how a height of a building is calculated: the average at finished grade. Commission used power point slide #8, Freestanding - Monument Signs, to guide the following discussion: (The slide had 9 pictures and they numbered the signs in columns: left column had pictures 1, 2 and 3; center column had pictures 4, 5 and 6; and the right column had pictures 7, 8 and 9.) # 1) Looks like a pole-sign - not good architecture #2) has architectural interest - contains logos - some logos would not fit into a horizontal sIgn. #7) Good identification of major tenants - good framing. Other general discussion included the following points: . Wall signs vs. Monument Signs. . Visibility of shopping center tenant signs from roadways. . Size of sign vs. architecture of sign. Lipton stated that the Commission had had a good discussion but needed to give staff direction. Members of the Public: John Dobie, Broomfield Sign Company, thanked the Commission for reviewing the sign code and for being willing to include input from various sign companies. He provided the following information for consideration: . as the sign moves away from the roadway the height can be increased . encourage flexibility in height . styles have changed over the years and the developers are beginning to request in incorporation of architectural features into a sign . the base should not be calculated into the total square footage . 32 SF might be too small, especially when located 10' from the roadway . 50 SF would be a better size and would allow for some negotiations with regard to the number of tenant identification signs and their respect size. Commission Questions of Public: Loo asked Dobie if he could recommend other communities for the Commission to review their sign code. Dobie recommended Ft. Collins and Loveland. Other effective signs are the example of the Broomfield location of King Soopers / Petco / Home Depot. Sheets questioned if the Safeway sign on Dillon / 144th caused any traffic problems. Dobie replied that the area has enough openness to accommodate the additional SF of the monument base and to set it back from the road. Deborski inquired about a minimum letter height. Dobie stated that 8" is a good height. Dalton thanked Dobie for coming. Deborski discussed the possibility of considering a ratio (proportion) of 1 to 1 (signage to architecture feature). Dalton stated that a ratio is not necessary.