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City Council <br />Meeting Minutes <br />October 2, 2023 <br />Page 5 of 14 <br />Councilmember Dickinson stated he is concerned we would be doing a lot of work but <br />wouldn't see a huge change as our neighbors are not doing this, He thinks that without <br />residential enforcement we won't see a big difference. He would like to include <br />incentives to get people to change out their lights sooner than later. <br />Councilmember Leh stated he is concerned about the cost to businesses to implement. <br />He would like to see more incentives to help people do this. Brackett Hogstad stated <br />staff plans to create an incentive/rebate program once they know what the regulations <br />will be. <br />Councilmember Leh asked what the cost of enforcement would be. Brackett Hogstad <br />stated that as written it could be done by existing staff. A full education program will be <br />created if the ordinance is approved. <br />Public Comments — None. <br />Councilmember Most stated she likes some things in the ordinance but it may make any <br />real differences and if that is the case it may not be worth requiring people to do it. <br />Councilmember Hoefner stated we might consider phasing this in with design guidelines <br />before we impose standards. We might like more time to see what the impacts and <br />costs are before we implement it. <br />Councilmember Hamlington noted that there are benefits even if we don't meet 100% <br />dark sky lighting goals. She would like to see movement towards a goal, progress is <br />important. The delta between new lighting with or without dark skies is not known. She <br />stated she likes the ordinance and it makes good progress which is better than doing <br />nothing at this point. <br />Mayor Maloney stated that the estimate that a quarter of homes already meet this goal <br />is due to a previous City program. He stated his concern is the cost impacts to <br />businesses. He stated this may be a time to take action on principal even knowing <br />surrounding communities may not join in. He supports the ordinance as written. <br />Mayor Pro Tern Fahey stated she also supports it as written. There are many things this <br />will help with and it is a good first step. Incentives can be the next step. <br />Councilmember Hoefner asked for this to go into effect with a slightly longer time frame <br />to get people in process a chance to come into compliance. <br />Councilmember Dickinson clarified this does not affect current buildings that are not <br />taking actions that triggers these rules. He stated he doesn't see a major negative <br />impact to the community but it also doesn't have a huge positive impact either. He <br />stated he is willing to support it but is concerned the next steps on incentives and <br />addressing parking lighting will get done. <br />