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Open Space Advisory Board <br />Minutes <br /> December 14th 2016 <br />Page 5 of 7 <br /> Michele shared the current draft for the new interpretive sign for Lake Park. It is <br />a small (18 x 24”) sign, not a big welcome-to-the-property sign. The main theme is <br />history vs. current state. She described and explained the graphics. Laura pointed out <br />that the kingfisher in the photo had a very atypical-looking tail, which may limit its use as <br />an identification aid. Helen asked whether the “Farm to Park” phrase should say “Farm <br />to Open Space.” Helen wanted the Open Space logo included. Ember reported that <br />staff had the same concerns and Joe had approved both of Helen’s recommended <br />changes already. Becky Harney (105 Rose St.), a member of the public and the Harney <br />family, commented that she liked the sign and thanked Michelle and Catherine for their <br />work. Her family wants the sign to specifically refer to the pond as “Harney Pond.” <br />Laura asked for higher contrast on the family photo, since it was already sort of “faded- <br />looking” even before it was put under the sun. Spencer asked whether the family photo <br />was really necessary. Ms. Harney was ambivalent about its inclusion. Graeme liked the <br />photo, as it felt personal. <br /> <br />XI. Discussion Item: Planning Department’s Wayfinding Project- Presented by: <br />Lauren Trice <br /> Lauren presented the history of the Planning Department’s Wayfinding Project. <br />There has already been collaboration and coordination between the Planning and the <br />Open Space wayfinding initiatives. She wanted to hear OSAB’s concerns about the <br />proposed Phase 1 locations for signs. Spencer asked if any are on Open Space. <br />Lauren answered that they were not, but that there exists the potential to point to Open <br />Space Properties. Laura reemphasized the board’s previously expressed preference not <br />to point cars to Open Spaces properties that do not have parking lots. Joe suggested <br />that a Colorado convention is for welcome signs to list a city’s elevation rather than its <br />historical establishment dates. Helen commented that she didn’t care for etching when <br />there isn’t also contrasting paint, as it is hard to read. The board asked about the “light <br />fixture” boxes on the top of the proposed signs. Lauren answered that they can be <br />made to contain lights. Missy asked whether those lights could be solar. Linda pointed <br />out that if they do light up they should point down, not horizontally, to be dark-sky <br />friendly. Laura agreed with Linda. Several board members thought they looked overly- <br />expensive. Lauren said that the type-A signs were $20,000 each and the type-J signs <br />were $3,000 each. Ember reported that Open Space and Planning coordinated sign <br />materials. Helen asked for coordinated fonts and colors too. Laura and Missy agreed. <br />Missy asked for consistent logic between the neighborhood badges and the trail <br />medallion signs. <br /> <br />XII. Discussion Item: OSAB recommendations regarding staff comments on the <br />Clementine Subdivision Preliminary PUD—Presented by Allan Gill <br /> Allan shared that the developer is deciding whether or not to pursue permission <br />to build a retention pond on a slice of City Land adjacent to Hwy. 42 and Lock St. This <br />issue came back before OSAB because City staff has since determined that because <br />the sliver of land in question is designated as “Park,” it may be the case that this <br />property cannot be used privately without a public vote, according to one “read” of the <br />City Charter. Rob Zuccaro from Planning came to explain this to OSAB. He said it was <br />hard to predict what the ultimate legal read of the charter would be on this issue and <br />whether the discussion will ultimately be moot. Eric Hartronft suggested that his read of <br />the charter’s language means that the land’s use is only subject to the citizen vote if the <br />land is to be leased for exclusive use, which was never the intension, since the land will <br />7
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