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and clarity, these speakers will be designated in these notes with an asterisk and the • notes will address only those comments that were additive to Mr. Scott's. Russell Moore, Louisville resident* — Voiced support for Mr. Scott's views and maintained that he was strongly opposed to the closing of the perimeter trail. Jeff Andringa; Louisville resident* — Mr. Andringa said that he is a "heavy user" of the Mesa and hasn't seen people off -trail or otherwise misusing the Mesa. Tom Green, Louisville resident* — Mr. Green said that he is also a user of the trail in the Preserve section and hasn't seen any erosion of the surrounding area. He also asked that the social trail in the north area be left open. Virginia Howland, Louisville resident* - Ms. Howland reiterated that she also does not want to see the social trails closed down and suggested that a strong education program was necessary and would appropriate usage. Jay Berger, Louisville resident — Mr. Berger mentioned that he had been closely following the LOSCAB's efforts for three years and had never seen the majority of attendees at a previous meeting. Mr. Berger said he didn't want to see the "personal fitness routines" and convenience take precedence over legitimate preservation concerns. Mr. Berger said we must all be willing to "give a little" in order to preserve what is important and that our culture of consumerism doesn't mean that we need to impose that mentality on our natural resources. Mr. Berger noted that the main "crusher fine" trail is currently the only legitimate trail on the Mesa and that 10 -15 years of illegitimate use of other social trails does not justify continue use in the future. Mr. & Mrs. John Carey — Both commented that they'd like to see a perimeter trail. Mrs. Carey asked if there was any scientific evidence that the social trial running through the Preserve section was actually causing damage. Mrs. Carey also noted the importance of an educational program to encourage proper trail usage. Pam Andringa, Louisville resident* - Ms. Andringa noted that despite the steep slope of the hillside, the trail is actually quite stable except for "two weeks a year" when it is muddy. Ms. Andringa maintained that restricting access (with signs) during those two weeks would provide sufficient protection. She noted the trails at NCAR as evidence that the trails are not too steep. Pam Branum— Ms. Branum noted that dog owners are responsible users of the trails, picking up after their dogs and observing the on -leash restrictions. She also mentioned that some of the "braiding" on the trails occurs when dog owners attempt to keep their dogs away from runners and bikers. Tom Branum — Mr. Branum suggested that he was seeking minimum impact on sensitive areas, but, in general, more access.