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2.5% or to some low rate to some degree and it says this has some equitable <br />utility so we made the decision to do the methodology. Now we are in a good <br />place but we could make changes if you want. Councilmember Maloney stated <br />that what we did 5 years ago was very good as we had the citizens, staff and <br />consultants involved but suggested we run every 5 years because we have <br />different processes and decisions and base it on what we do today which may be <br />different than 5 years ago. Maybe some scenarios can be brought to the next <br />meeting if we change and what the impact would be. If we change the rate this <br />way we would have unintended consequences. Mayor Muckle stated he doesn’t <br />understand what’s broken that we’re trying to fix. This could be a whole bunch of <br />work that was already a bunch of work. Mr. Kowar said there are some residents <br />that think they are paying more than commercial. So if there’s one thing we need <br />to fix is a resident needs to feel they pay the same as commercial. <br />Councilmember Stolzmann says “No” she doesn’t think that’s what we are trying <br />to say. Councilmember Maloney referred to the chart on Page 31 that is an <br />aggregate of all the commercial and Eldorado Springs is paying the highest rate. <br />Well the aggregate with all the other commercial is dragging all those up for the <br />rate they are paying so is the bulk of commercial paying. Councilmember <br />Stolzmann stated we could do some scenarios and run some data. Mr. Kowar <br />said what you are saying is not to look at it as a class but establish some norm. <br />Councilmember Stolzmann said that’s the problem with commercial customer <br />class but I bet it is not a normal distribution. <br /> Mr. Ahren asked then do you want a number run off it that will tell you what the <br />group means and how much standard deviation there is. If there’s one out of <br />whack, then it will tell you. It includes peaking people and if there’s one that <br />doesn’t it will tell you. Then he used an example and Councilmember Maloney <br />continued saying it would normalize the number and get rid of those Eldorado <br />Springs users. Then you have Sierra Nevada that uses a small percent so what <br />you have is the aggregate and you’re saying it is equitable because of the <br />aggregate across the classes and I don’t philosophically agree with that. Mr. <br />Kowar continued saying that applies to the resident that uses 3,000 gallons and <br />you have people using half million gallons a year. Councilmember Maloney <br />stated we agree those high volume users should pay the higher rate or what we <br />call the highest incline block structure. Councilmember Stolzmann said we <br />agreed to have this incline block structure that the Mayor laid that out as a <br />principle last month. It is popular in our area and people want us to charge <br />people who use more water a higher amount. So that is a bedrock principle that <br />was laid out that we want to have an incline block structure. Regardless whether <br />it is fair, equitable, related to cost of service or whatever we want to put this on <br />top of it as our signature piece at the end and we agreed to that. Then how do we <br />calculate for that first drop of water. At the end of the day we have to make sure <br />it adds up to the amount we need to run the utility. Cory will make sure whatever <br />we put on this that it will be enough money so that it doesn’t change people’s <br />behavior so much that it throws it out of whack. Committee continued talking <br />about what is reasonable and discussed a few scenarios from the user class <br />charts. <br />6