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HB 1041 - MATTERS OF STATE INTEREST cont1d Mr. Shelton stated taht Amuedo & Ivey did the study not the state and the reason it was designated as hazardous is theoretically; the firm must have found it on an old mine map. Mr. DeMarco stated that the map that should have been used is at the State Coal Mining Commission as the last mining map before the people removed themselves from that mine. Mr. DeMarco stated that Mr. Andy Deborski, Chief Mining Inspector and himself went over the last map of the Fireside Mine and the mine is 1,000 feet south of where the firm placed it. Mr. DeMarco stated that he could not believe any other portion of the state map when he was aware of a 1,000 foot error on his property alone. Mr. DeMarco stated that he has asked that the correction be made and received a letter from Mr. Cole admitting the error, but it was never corrected. Mr. DeMarco stated that in regards to sub- sidence; when the mine caves in it forms an arch and then it will not cave anymore. Mr. DeMarco asked Mr. Shelton why when a developer comes into Louisville to develop the Land Use Commission and CGS come in and state that the area may be a geologic hazard. He asked why the state never told the farmer who may reside on the property to move because the land may subside. He stated that one is just as im- portant as 1,000 people so why does the state wait for a developer to come in. Mr. Shelton stated that subsidence does occur in coal fields. He stated that Amuedo & Ivey did find areas sunk due to subsidence and they spoke with farmers who would have to level their fields because of subsidence each year. Mr. Shelton stated that it is possible for subsidence to occur when new land uses begin, such as: changing ground water condi- tions, vibrating the surface, etc. They type of changes may cause subsidence. Mr. Shelton stated that if the ground is perfect the arch will form and stop subsidence, but there are joints, faults, etc. that will cause sub- sidence to occur. Mr. Shelton stated that he did not feel the City should take on a risk of future undevelopable land. Mayor Waschak stated that in the late 1880ls our families came in and built the City with- out any tests for subsidence and the City is still standing. 3.